@David
Lacking security about what? Can you provide any evidence or you say and ‘think’ so because you read it in some BuzzFeed article or wired or gizmodo or CNN or TYT or any other garbage “news” (more like propaganda) page about it and about how “insecure Telegram is” while not even understand what Telegram is about or why it is becoming popular among EVERYONE, not just the fairy tale you mentioned?
Because I mean, it is cute you even mention “American Far Right” fairy tale boogieman that only lives in some propaganda machines that try to manipulate weak people, that are gullible enough to believe a lie like that, especially when we talk about more than 500million users telegram has.
But Talking about Signal and your supposedly almighty super secured and private app that you love so much.
Are you going to tell me you trust more an app that was funded by US government and has connections like that like Moxie has, and you are going to tell me Telegram is less secured? Have you ever researched the connections Signal and that Moxie has with anyone in silicon valley and the US government?
What about the Huawei engineers saying Signal Protocol is a CIA backdoor? Have you researched that or you just ignore it? What about the flawed Proxy feature they released that put people in danger? I mean, some people of the ‘anti-censorship community’ raised the issue on github and signal forums and they got dismissed and censored and banned by signal and Moxie, the only respond I read by Moxie was “we will do it better next time” like if the damage they could do or they did by their bad implementation was going to be fixed by words of hope.
You are going to say that’s more secured and private than Telegram?
Can you tell me if Signal finally updated or released the updated server source code? last time I checked it was 11 months and 10 days without any update… It is obvious that in a year they had to update it but somehow didn’t happen, I mean, logically even if they released the code you can’t even be sure that your data is stored in a server having the same code they post on Github, but apparently you are going to say that their server code not being updated in over a year is a good and positive thing?
I mean, there is the drama between Moxie and Cellebrite has taken precedence over the removal of phone numbers which they promised (but I doubt it will happen) or proper proxy implementation and the server source code issue which he has reminded silent about it anyway, many things that they could do, but hey… distraction and smoke screens are useful when so many controversies surround the CEO and the App.
Soo many things and you still think Telegram is the problem here? and it is the one lacking security and privacy?
Oh yeah I forgot… it is not about the Security and the privacy itself, it is about the boogieman fairy tale you believe that exists, just like some people believe in Santa Claus, you believe “American Far Right” thus you can’t use Telegram and build some spaghetti logic to justify not using it while supposedly talk about security and privacy, even if Telegram has never been around controversies like what happens with Signal every single second, red flags don’t matter when boogie-far right-man is around.
The only thing Signal supposedly does better than Telegram is the E2EE everywhere and by default statement… but, can you even trust that? if End-to-End Encryption is the way it is, how are you sure Signal is not doing the whatsapp way of saying they offer the same while using google drive as a backup without any encryption in your messages? This is the reason Telegram doesn’t offer Secret Chats on by default, Telegram wanted a secured web synched messenger that worked on any device, had apps that people can build and you can get your messages without problem if you wanted. E2EE wouldn’t allow that ever, so how secured are these apps where you get a message in one device and then somehow it appears in another device like the PC app you set up, I mean, have you ever questioned… how secured it is? or you just believe it because you read E2EE and that’s it?
I mean, I have to ask, do you know what E2EE is?
Because I know in 2021 it is mostly a marketing buzzword using by companies to make others fall and pretend they are “safer” while people don’t even understand how it works, so Telegram not offering it by default doesn’t mean it is less private or secured, it just different which can be decided by the users what they want to do.
It seems you say you trust more an app that ONLY lets you communicate with people by giving your phone number to others, while you say Telegram is less secured and private even if you can set up a username and never reveal your phone number to strangers.
So can you enlighten us and tell us how is Signal any better? especially when you have to trust either company with your information? Of course like I said, at least Telegram hasn’t had any controversies surrounding them like that, but then people hide those Signal issues with some “we recommend it” marketing stuff, which is interesting when that Moxie has so many silicon valley connections… pretty suspicious if you ask me.
And just so you know, since you believe in the fairy tale boogieman of Far Right, the reason Telegram has became popular is because it offers unlimited member channels (and now groups) and groups which will work for 200k users, so people can build communities without having to deal with twitter or facebook or google or amazon any other pro-censorship silicon valley company, now it offers audio calls for channels which they call the re-newed radio of the 21st century feature and they promised the tv station mode as well later this year, which would be huge, it also lets you transfer files up to 2gb and there is people who proudly say “I have stored in Telegram cloud 200gb” which means, they don’t need to trust Google or Microsoft or even deal with “limits” imposed by Mega or whatever cloud drive company unless you pay, so there are many reason why people use telegram for good things and what people would say bad things like pirating movies and all that, but it’s not like Telegram is wild wild west since many groups and channels get banned for p*rnography and all that, but obviously the “risks” of having apps that promote more freedom than others is that unless it is public (channels or groups) nobody will know they exist, and good and bad things will happen.
Of course you can still believe Telegram has 500 million far right people on it or the buzzfeed story how “they are coding their own language to recruit blabla”, you can be as smart or not so smart as you want because apparently that “far right” fairy tale only lives in the heads of some internet users that try to stay relevant when selling ‘news’ and their clickbait business or trying to pretend the world absolute numbers and nothing else should exist outside their little bubble and everyone should be just a lemming because freedom is dangerous and it is horrible the reality that the world will never be the way we all want.
I really doubt you have any argument to back up your claim and you only use the lemmingish mentality about how far right blabla to justify your usage of Signal even with all the red flags around it.
And don’t get me wrong, it is find if you want to use Facebook messenger, Whatsapp, Signal or whatever, but sounds kind of dishonest when you supposedly talk about privacy and security and then publicly link your excuse to dismiss telegram by using the lie and pretty much a propaganda buzzword(s) as an argument against it.
I mean, your logic makes little to no sense because are you going to stop using internet because “bad people I don’t agree with also use internet” or your car or drinking water or eating food or even breathing because what you call “bad people”, which doesn’t mean they are bad or they even exists, like in the case of your supposedly existence of Far Right blabla EVERYWHERE like people like you try to make it seem, it is what you want to think it is ‘bad’, your reality or internet reality which is far from the real stuff people live in the world and only because you and other got manipulated to believed so it doesn’t make it true or bigger than it is etc etc.
But I mean to be honest I really don’t care your relativeness or mentality and what you believe is right or wrong, like, I would trust less someone like you on the internet about the reality of the world since it seems you believe in the Santa Claus of 2021, but whatever reality you believe to be real or not, it doesn’t change the many red flags around Signal and how it doesn’t explain how your argument “Telegram is less secured and private” without providing any evidence besides “I think” is any valid only because in your imagination and your buzzfeed articles or what you were told about Far Right or elves and whatever fits your agenda and narrative and excuses, use Telegram.
